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Biased Lead

The term terrorist is not WP:NPOV. Lehi also didn't call themselves terrorist. They said the "true terrorists were the British." It is in the sources some of which are falsely represented and some are simply a guy's opinion. No lead for Hamas, Hizballah, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Al Qaeda, ISIS, the IRA or anyone else start with "was a terrorist organization." A responsible editor (other than racist warriors who commented on this before) should remove the biased racist lead. Words that are commonly used are "designated by" as terrorist. But all these groups are called radical or paramilitary or militant etc. Unacceptable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7000:9F04:FCC0:56E:BD73:4CBA:A1F7 (talk) 21:40, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. According to a long standing policy here, Wikipedia does not directly label individuals or groups as terrorists. Fixed. Tombah (talk) 08:05, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This topic has been raised twice recently in other discussions: [1] and [2] - including one talk thread by a very similar IP address - and many more times in the discussion archive. The reasons for this have been explained in detail, but the short answer is that not only was Lehi called a terrorist group by the relevant authorities of the day, but its operatives called themselves terrorists and produced literature justifying their use of terrorism as a legitimate strategy. WP:NPOV means balance with respect to sources, and there is agreement between the sources on this. Iskandar323 (talk) 09:31, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Given that Lehi was not only designated as a terrorist group, they self-identified as such, it seems like NPOV to call them a "militant group" instead. — Red XIV ^(talk) 05:29, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Revisionist Zionism?

Hello. Would like to contest the description of the Lehi as revisionists. Laqueur, who is cited word-for-word at many points in this article points out in his History of Zionism that the Lehi rejected revisionism.

"The split in Irgun occurred in the first half of 1940. It d id not come altogether as a surprise, for the attitude towards Britain was not the only issue at stake. For several years previously Stern had pursued a policy assigned to detach Irgun from revisionism."

I think it would be better to describe them as just "Zionists" rather than Revisionist Zionists. Horarum (talk) 17:50, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Like many political movements, Zionism is a broad church with numerous variations with it. 2A0A:EF40:387:5F01:C07F:7134:EC17:AAEF (talk) 00:18, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

'National Bolshevism'

Whilst surely the Lehi adopted both socialistic and nationalistic stances I'd contest: 1. It had clear enough political views to be defined in that way 2. It was in any way 'bolshevik' And even if I were wrong about both of these things, the label is still anachronistic. If someone wants to contest it they can bring it back but I feel fairly confident in removing the label. Mooneylupin (talk) 09:35, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok apparently I can't edit it, but it should definitely be edited!!! Mooneylupin (talk) 09:37, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add English translations so that those who cannot read Hebrew may understand. For Example: Hamaas = "The Action"; HaKhazit = "The Front"; Mivrak = "Telegram"; BaMahteret = "Underground"; ComeAndHear (talk) 04:03, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done thanks. Zero^talk 14:04, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

“Anti-Arab sentiment”

In the info box it states that part of their ideology was Anti-Arab sentiment, with no reference. While some did refer to Arabs as a “slave race”, this was not fundamental to their ideology. Natan Yellin-Mor for example sought “Arab liberation” and “Jewish-Arab cooperation.” The central committee of Lehi under his wife also published pamphlets in Arabic “calling for peace, brotherhood and a joint war against the imperialists victimizing them all and setting them at loggerheads.” (Note this was before Stern’s death).[1] Same with the militant Amos Kenan, who explicitly stated this; “I joined because [Lehi] was an anti-imperialist and anti-colonialist organisation…We didn't fight the Arabs.” There have even been members like Eliyahu Bet Zuri who fully denounced the Zionist movement. Same with Arabs who joined, like Abu Gosh Yoseph While many aspects of Lehi can of course be condemnable, this is purely biased, and I recommend to remove that. NorCremer (talk) 11:59, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]